October 2008 Baker's Stash
Classic Deep Dish Apple Cake
It's free but it's worth it's weight in gold.
Deep Dish Apple Cake Part Deux
Dear Bakers and Baking Friends,
Remember that Deep Dish Apple Cake?
(Oh no. Not again.)
I know – how often can I talk about this cake and wasn’t it just fine as is? Why must I futz with things? Because something therein is on a quest….
Last week, I offered a Deep Dish Apple Cake recipe free. But something about the recipe wasn’t quite perfect. Oh, it works (not to worry) and it is lovely but it wasn’t just as I recalled. I made it twice and thought – no. We’re not there yet.
For years, my once mother-in-law, a queen of all things flavourful, made a deep dish apple cake that drew raves. None better. I am the first to admit it. And just last year, albeit we know longer are related, she once again generously confirmed the recipe to be sure I had it right.
Although I followed her recipe like a monk deciphering Da Vinci’s code, my version of her cake, while good, never looked nor tasted quite like hers. I knew how this cake should look and taste. Mine didn’t taste or look like the original. Good but not it. And that is when I finally dug in, threw away the recipe and burrowed into it with my baker’s instinct. I realized the recipe needed less oil, less sugar, more apples, more batter, less egg. I knew what texture it should be and how higher cakes (as mom’s cake was) are always more dramatic. Who wants little and homey when you can have homey taste in a bolder, lofty cake? You know – baking needs a bit of Broadway in it – with Eau de Grandma but we do eat with our eyes. When I indulge, I want it to be riveting from the get go. So, I overhauled that wonderful cake the foundation up and voila! I finally got her deep dish apple cake exactly!
Deep Dish Apple Cake, Part Deux is bigger, bolder, a touch less sweet and no oily taste – but it is so, so good. And I am satisfied now that I have that incomparable legendary apple cake coming out of my own kitchen. It’s not close, it’s not nearly – it is IT.
What is really important is to know that for starters, it takes an impossibly large amount of apples –they should almost overflow the pan. Mom originally said a ‘good 10-12 large apples’ but it is actually 18-24. This cake also takes ages to bake through – 90 minutes or more (but just bake it and let it brown nicely – keeping an eye on it and reducing the temperature if edges are browning and center seems mushy). This is an outrageous, packed with apples, old-fashioned and easy apple cake.
So, why did I not have the recipe right the first time? The fact was, although my deep dish apple cake mentor gave me the recipe accurately, she was in fact, giving me the recipe as she believed she made it versus how she was actually making it.
You see, that’s the thing with baking and cooking. There is how we actually do things and how we record it – and I am as guilty of this as anyone else (except you all take me to task when I flub up) – sometimes there is a gap between what we do and what we say we do (or how).
There is really a challenge to getting a recipe, to its last crumb, to reflect the final results or vision you have. Not only that, but doing it in such a way anyone else can have the same results. That is what inspired recipe writing is all about. Distillation and transmittal (and never mind the chef part). And yet, for all this, the U.S. Library of Congress does not recognize recipes as copyrightable. Shame on them. They have neither a notion of artistic fairness nor a palate.
That first deep dish apple cake I gave you last year and last week is great. But this one? It is higher, crustier, prettier, more impressive and tastes like apple nirvana. Come on, fall’s young – try this one too. It’s free. Use Macs or Cortland, Lobos, Spartans and save those Granny Smith’s for candy apples.
This brings to mind the subject of tweaking recipes. Many of you have also noted that my Majestic Honey Cake is different in my cookbook than on the website and Epicurious (who published it to a 4 fork kudo rating). Why is it different? Here’s the thing. The original is sweet, spicy, and amazing. But it also features a very thin batter than barely hoists itself up and sets. Depending on a bit of luck, baking expertise, the honey/soda/acidity interaction, your flour, you might get the same wonderful cake I do (and most people do) or have an overflow or cave-in. Every five hundred or so honey cakes, and there is one such cave-in and I hand hold someone to a second, successful one. I also get letters from other honey cake haters (I was one such) who tell me because of me, they now like honey cake and they are famous (in Milwaukee, Glen Falls, Sault St. Marie, Manhattan Beach, California and Boston).
But to make life easier for people, I re-did the recipe slightly to offer a great alternative Majestic Honey Cake that is about as good but more stable a cake. I was being helpful –not coy. I also wanted a still-bigger cake and Majestic, Part Deux is a bit bigger (but more stable).
But the two recipe variations did give birth to emails suggesting I was holding back the recipe or there were ‘discrepancies’. Interestingly, these emails come from various sources across the land, and from unique individuals, but they all read the same:
Dear BetterBaking.com and Crew (I always like that because there is no crew. There is me. Sometimes, when I am really tired, there is barely me)
I tried your recipe and while it looked baked and I tested it for doneness (sic I know what I am doing, I took precautions) it collapsed as it cooled. I know what I am doing. I am not a new baker (SIC, the fault is not on my end). I also have a Viking oven (or AGA, Garland, Wolfe, Thermador (sic, not only do I know what I am doing, it’s not the oven’s fault and I’ve invested in the best.) I know honey cakes (sic I was not born yesterday and might have 14 grandchildren who will attest I am the best baker in the family). My dessert was ruined! I had nothing to serve and I am gravely disappointed.
Well, things do happen and I stand my recipes and happy to coach on command when problems occur. And surely, no food professional advocates wasting people’s time or ingredients. But baking is not like well oiled sprockets or new computer software or hardware. It is alive. It is subject to many things. That doesn’t mean one wants failure but unless I am in the kitchen with you, it’s hard to say, where the glitch occurred. But what I notice in those that might have a mishap is a common element of deep unhappiness and sense of blame.
So I was just thinking, given this is a new year, why not start with sweetness? Why not get a bit more Zen about it all. I am the first to confess, given all my baking expertise, stuff happens. When it does, I remember I am still a rather nice person (even when cranky) and the disaster, given what real disaster is really about, is not so grave. Tomorrow is another day and no one will like you less if you show up without dessert. If they do, that’s a bigger truth than a fallen honey cake.
That said – the sweet and sour meatballs from that other free recipe I sent out that you all made and all claimed were fantastic (they are)? I forgot. I usually put in 1-2 teaspoons gravy browning (Baker’s Caramel or Kitchen Bouquet). You might try it too; it gives the meatballs a gorgeous, mahogany hue. The citric acid – might be hard to find but it zaps those meatballs with a dynamite sour hit to the sweet overview. It is having you all make that recipe that made me look at it and how I do it yet again and realize – I can still hone it.
Frankly, I don’t want to give you the best recipe –although I try. I want to give you the best recipe of where I am, as a chef and as a person, so far, and from the perspective of the kitchen season I happen to be in. Along those lines, I don’t want to write cookbooks called ‘bibles’ (although I admire them) or claim I have definitive biscuits (although I know I will sometimes hype things as such) or superlative coleslaw or ‘perfect’ brownies, or quintessential scones or tout my test kitchen as the last word on anything. In essence, I want to give you the zenith of the moving target of my baking evolution. My own tastes change and my expertise improves. Moreover, knowing you all better (my baking friends at large) adds to my insights of what you need and want.
I don’t ever want to get it all perfect and cast in stone. As a person, and as a professional, I want to keep a little lean and hungry and learning. Changing. Growing. Adapting. I want to be a bit humble. I want – when someone tells me their cheesecake is unlike any other I’ve made or tried, to be able to say: Really? Sounds good. I would like to take a look at that. Because the minute we close that door and think we know it all – the vitality and passion leaches out.
There’s something to be said for having expertise and wisdom. I’d be a fool to claim otherwise – especially when you train at your craft. But I think the secret to passion or having your personality upstage your age –is to keep curious and stay open. Leave the door open for a collapsed honey cake. It’s not ‘disaster’; it’s a head’s-up to inquiry and more fun (and tasty) research. Mistakes happen for reasons we cannot even fathom. But I love that I can still bask in the glory of learning a bit more, each time I bake. I am happy that I don’t know everything about sourdough, or tango, or friendships, or winterizing my car, lip gloss, love or life. Often, I prefer not knowing. It means I get a whole new go-round of rediscovery. We want to revisit this life. So leave something undone, unlearned, un-honed. Imperfect. And stay supple. It’s in those gaps that stuff happens.
But for those of you with collapsed honey cake, with the new Viking oven, that was calibrated just last week, and you weighed (not measured) the flour so you-know-it-was-right and you’ve been baking since 1776 so you know what you are doing – if you want to blame the baker –hey – clearly, baker girl that I am, I can take the heat. It’s life. Bring it. May our disputes be over cake and cake alone. By implication, it would have to mean, all else - all that is more important, is all well.
I also remind Canucks that anything you need concerning Turkey Day (from stuffing to gravy to cranberry sauce that is almost the best) is in the Complete Recipe Archives. I remind everybody that one of the nicest fruitcakes from my cookbook, A Passion for Baking (Oxmoor House 2007) is the Black Cake. If you are making it, now is about the time you should start marinating the fruits and figuring out where you hid the cheesecloth.
With a smile and a wink and a nod towards, Canadian Thanksgiving, and Halloween and all things spice, pumpkin, heart-warming, and real, I wish you a wonderful October.
Editor and Host
Classic Deep Dish Apple Cake
For years, my mother-in-law made a deep dish apple cake. She gave me the recipe and although I followed it to the letter, my cake, while good, never looked like hers. I finally overhauled it –and voila – I got her cake. It is bigger, a touch less sweet and fatty – but so, so good! It takes an impossibly large amount of apples –they should almost overflow the pan. It also takes ages to bake through – like, 90 minutes (but just bake it and let it brown nicely – keeping an eye on it) This is outrageous- packed with apples, old-fashioned, and easy.
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